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This activity follows on from &lt;a href=&quot;http://nrich.maths.org/public/viewer.php?obj_id=1515&amp;amp;part=index&quot;&gt;World of Tan 25 - Pentominoes&lt;/a&gt; &lt;mdo:flash height=&quot;380&quot; id=&quot;/content/02/02/tan1/1517.swf&quot; width=&quot;600&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowfullscreen&quot; value=&quot;true&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;/content/02/02/tan1/1517.swf&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Granma T: Oh dear! First day back from school and the children are arguing already!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(overheard...)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Little Fung: It can be done!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Little Ming: No it can&amp;#39;t. We showed you that at the end of the lesson, can&amp;#39;t you remember?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: Why all this noise? Is there no homework to do? If not ..OUT into the yard there is much to do there! Help the men tidy away.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LF: Not that old chestnut again!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: Pardon?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LM: Little Fung asked about old chestnuts?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LF: That&amp;#39;s right. Just what are they? What does it mean?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: Out, finish off out there - we can talk about this later!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LM: That&amp;#39;s cool!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: Pardon? Whatever does that mean?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(...and out into the yard the children go to help whoever is there. Meanwhile back in the office...)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: Little Fung is getting cheeky. And that is so out of character.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mai Ling: Sign of the times, Granma T, I am afraid to say.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: But things are getting better - we are more prosperous, there is nothing we go without...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ML: It is not like the old days and all the uncertainties of yesteryear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: Whatever was all that nonsense about &amp;#39;old chestnuts&amp;#39;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ML: I&amp;#39;mnot sure but I feel certain that over your meal tonight you will be cross questioned, as the children do like to know and are not afraid to ask.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: Yes, but that is good. And I know they ask a lot of questions at school - which is very good. The teachers must be wearied by my two alone!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ML: When I was at school no - one was allowed to speak unless spoken to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: Times - they arechanging, Mai Ling. Even the lessons that the children do are so different from what you or I did as children. It is much more interesting, much more demanding. There is so much to make them think for themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ML: Certainly the problems the children bring home keep all of us here busy every now and again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: You are right - I wonder what it will be tonight?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ML: It might be something about language? All that fuss about old chestnuts...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: It is the ones to do with mathematics that cause me the most problems.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ML: Well, there are enough problem solvers here except ....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(...Mai Ling&amp;#39;s words are drowned out by the children coming back in...)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Little Fung: It can be done!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Little Ming: No it can&amp;#39;t. Don&amp;#39;t you ever learn?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GT: And so on and on we go till suppertime .......CHILDREN...........&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in the meantime, complete the silhouette of a brazier used to roast chestnuts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you resolve Little Ming and Little Fung&amp;#39;s argument? Here is their diagram:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;There are more activities in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://nrich.maths.org/public/viewer.php?obj_id=1517&amp;amp;part=note&quot;&gt;notes&lt;/a&gt; . The story continues in &lt;a href=&quot;http://nrich.maths.org/public/viewer.php?obj_id=1518&amp;amp;part=index&quot;&gt;World of Tan 27 - Sharing&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;mdoxml version=&quot;1.0&quot;&gt;Children you might like to: &lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Find all the references to time within the story and list
others that could have been used.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Consider the phrase &amp;quot;that's cool&amp;quot;. Discuss what it
means and give examples of when you might use such a term.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Talk about the different ways in which you work while at
school.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Parents you might like to:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Explain the terms 'old chestnut' and 'that's cool'&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Help try to solve the problem in the activity, and show what
this problem has to do with the mathematician called Euler.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Look up and discuss the words unicursal and transversable.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pursue similar problems - remember trying to join up 5 dots
when you were young?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Teachers you might like to:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Explore other words/ phrases that are similar to 'old
chestnut'&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Show why the problem Little Ming and Little Fung were arguing
aboutcan or cannot be done&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;investigate at greater length the mathematician Euler and what
he is famous for&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Use the Internet to find similar problems. Hint: research
Hamiltonian journeys/ salesmen journeys find appropriate
mathematical 'old chestnuts' for the children to solve.
&lt;/li&gt;
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  <title>World of Tan 26 - Old chestnut</title>
  <description>Can you fit the tangram pieces into the outline of this brazier for roasting chestnuts?</description>
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